Narrated D&D Story: How The Awful Dungeon Master Absolutely Loves Anime


[Channel Teaser] How The Awful Dungeon Master Absolutely Loves
Anime This story was submitted by Austin. Thank you! First, some backstory. I hate D&D 5e. From the restrictive mechanics, to the bullcrap
lore that contradicts literally decades of lore that has been built (and to be fair,
a lot of the contradictions started in 4e), I loathe the 5.0e system with every fiber
of my body. I am an OG player, and I have played everything
from the original D&D up to 5e, and 3.0/3.5e is my favorite; Pathfinder is a close second. But, a few weeks ago, I decided “Hey, I can’t
really say I hate something if I do not try it, right?” and joined up with some folks
to play D&D 5e. This was a bad decision… Do not get me wrong. Tom, Dave, and Shelby are great to play with,
but the DM is… and the setting… Just… keep listening. The party consists of the following level
5 (now level 6) PCs (Player names are changed for privacy): ~my Dragonborn Paladin Arcrath (Oath of the
Crown): I play him very traditionally. He is Lawful Good, hates Evil beings, and
especially loathes evil Dragons and Demons/Devils/Fiends. ~Dave’s Halfling Barbarian Gar (Totem): Chaotic
Good, raised by wolves, is not very civilized. ~Tom’s Human Fighter Maximus (Battle Master):
Lawful Neutral, ex-Soldier ~Shelby’s Elf Ranger Vashedan (Horizon Walker):
Chaotic Good ~Sasuke: the Weeaboo DM. Ex party members are:
~Mike’s Demon Bard/Fighter/Rogue/Warlock/Sorcerer, Vagaris (He killed himself in character, and
player left the group. Details below) Chaotic Stupid, loves to start
crap, player is a good guy, character was an a-hole. ~Sarah’s Human Sorcerer Luxanna. Lux’s player only wanted to blow *bleep* up. Didn’t want to talk to anyone or do anything
except “FIREBALL”. We called her Megumin, for obvious reasons. Chaotic Good, player had no idea what she
was doing, but it was fine. We accommodated her, until her Player left
after realizing that D&D is not “kill kill, murder kill” all the time. OK, so, that is the party. And the title is a reference to DanMachi. Also, it should be noted that before we made
our characters, we knew NOTHING about the setting we were playing in. It was a fight just to get Sasuke to tell
us what level to make our characters. We did not know if we were doing a Good vs
Evil, or Evil vs Good, or a sandbox campaign. We did not know if it was a module, or a homebrew
campaign. We did not know if the physical setting was
official or homebrew. It was like pulling teeth to get any information
out of Sasuke before Session 0. We finally learned that were were starting
at level 5, with the basic gear for a level 1 (I am not kidding), and it was a completely
custom setting and story, and please, don’t be evil. That is all we were told. I asked if Unearthed Arcana was ok, since
it’s 5e playtest, and Sasuke (after 3 days) said sure. And to quash any “well, you’re just upset
cause you can’t powergame” crap: I would gladly give up my Tunnel Fighter Fighting Style,
and my Sentinel Feat and be “forced” to take the 2 ASI’s if Sasuke would get his crap together. So, here we go. Session 1: Calm before the Storm:
We began coming to the main town of Orario, and we get some backstory. Turns out, the town has a dungeon tower, familias
of different gods… Oh, and Hell and Heaven are connected to the
Mortal Plane by tunnel-like connections. Portals, really, but that is only cause D&D
doesn’t have Wormhole mechanics in 5e. Heaven works… basically exactly like it
does in Final Fantasy 13, and Hell is split into three factions. Two, I don’t remember, and one being the Great
Tomb of Nazerick, run by Ainz Ooal Gown. Yes, this is what we are dealing with. Still, I have played, and run, anime inspired
games, so it is not too bad. We get to the sign up station for the adventuring
guild (taken straight out of KonoSuba), and we had to wait in line. OK, neat. Arcrath and Gar also meet Vagaris, a Demon,
who does not believe in the Gods, despite having a Celestial Patron. I am not kidding. Vagaris was making trouble cussing at the
officials and generally being an a-hole. But, I have the Noble Background, so I should
be able to push my weight around and get to the front faster, because Noble, right? Nope. Turns out, only the nobles in Orario matter,
and everyone else is worthless. No one cares about the nobles from outside
the city, making my background useless outside of the free 25GP. So my background is useless. Me and Gar’s player, (Dave) protest this,
and Sasuke shrugs and basically tells us, “too bad.” Gar then does some acrobatics to impress the
guards, and we are let through. Yes, my noble blood was useless, but some
flips and spins from a Halfling got us in… We eventually get signed up and get our Character
Sheets, in game ala KonoSuba, and end session 1. Me and Dave are a bit put off, but hey, a
rocky first session run buy a guy who’s new to the DM’s chair is not a new thing, and
maybe it will get better. Session 2: Could we have been wrong?: Session two sees us entering the dungeon where
we meet up with Vashedan and Luxanna, and continue on. We fight a couple things, a Boar and mud monster
being the only mentionable ones, and my Sentinel Feat allows us to run past the mud monster
to level 2. Vashedan uses his Find Portal ability to guide
us toward the end of the dungeon, and we find an abandoned town, in the middle of the blizzard
currently raging around us. Yes, a town in the dungeon, based on DanMachi,
and it is not in a safe zone. It did not make sense to me either. We break into a house and use it for shelter
to ride out the storm, burning the furniture inside it in the fireplace. Our party finds a scroll case, and Gar, being…
well, Gar, opens it up and reads it. It is Dark Speech (Demon language), and Gar’s
eyes go black for a second before I snatch the scroll away and toss it in the fire. Arcrath, knowing enough about religion to
recognize the Dark Speech, acts on a hunch. And I will admit, I metagamed a little bit
here, but kept it in character and used his Divine Senses to sniff out any Demons/Devils/Fiends
in the area. Of course Vagaris lights up, that is to be
expected, but Gar also lights up, and Arcrath knows Gar is no being from the Lower Realms,
so Arcrath uses his Channel Divinity and taunts the demon into coming out and fighting. Sasuke begged and pleaded with me not to do
it, because “The demon is too strong for your party.” Keep in mind, we were all level 5, and I was
min/maxed to all hell, or as much as I could be with piss-poor stats I rolled up. I could feasibly do 4d8 (1d8 from Warhammer,
2d8 from Divine Smite, +1d8 Divine Smite against Demon) +2d6 (Searing Strike) +STR mod damage
in one attack, because of Divine Smite and Searing Strike, so this had to be a BIG demon. All of us except for Mike would not back down,
claiming, and rightfully so, that all of this was acting in character, and I had every right
to call out the Demon. If we died, we died. No one was upset at me, since I was not metagaming
that they knew. Again, I was sort of metagaming, but keeping
it 100% in character. Long story short, the Devil came out, and
was immediately beaten into a bloody pulp. Gar actually ripped its throat out with her
teeth! We continue on, and eventually teleport back
to town. All in all, a damn good session, and nothing
to complain about… Then we get to Session 3: Slaves, and apparently our Barbarian
can’t break a lock: Session three sees us back in town, and we
accidentally got ourselves into a slave auction. The exact slave shop from Rising of the Shield
Hero. Arcrath, being Lawful Good, does not like
this. Maximus, being Lawful Neutral, does not like
this. Gar, being Gar, does not like slavers. Arcrath lets out a deafening roar, Nat 20
on Intimidate! And says, “Bring me your boss, or I’m cracking
everyone’s skulls”. Nine guards jump us instantly, but I had used
my bonus action after roaring to settle into a defensive position. I activated my Tunnel Fighter (Fighting Style)
and as they approached us, I got to smack every one of them, dealing enough damage to
drop them all before they could do anything more than cough. I felt like a badass… Tunnel Fighter allows you to use a Bonus Action
on your turn so that, until your next turn, you no longer use your Reaction to make Opportunity
Attacks. It is not broken on its own, but when you
combine it with Sentinel and Mage Slayer… The boss comes out, and Arcrath, Gar, and
Maximus make short work of him, though he escapes before we can apprehend him. Ok, neat little adventure hook. I can dig it… Except SPOILER ALERT: It’s never brought up
again. After the guards and boss are taken care of,
we move to freeing the non-hostile slaves. There is a bunny girl in one of the cages,
and since Gar is still raging, Dave decides to punch the lock off the chain, ‘cause
Raging Barbarian. Dave rolls a 21. Good, Right? I mean, hey, locks are DC 15 to pick them,
and chains have a DC 20 to break them right? Well… Sasuke rolled for the DC and got a 23. Yes, you read that right. Sasuke rolled for the Difficulty Check for
something that is not a contested roll. Now, this was not the first time he had done
it, but it was definitely the most egregious. See, Dave and I had already called Sasuke
out on this back in session 1… He said he would stop. He did not. So, I looked up the DC to break a chain or
lock, and found the DC 20 STR check to break chains. Sasuke said “Ok, we will do it again,” and
we thought that meant “OK, we will use the actual rules, go ahead and roll again”. So Dave rolled, and got a 16, which is not
high enough, and then Sasuke ROLLED AGAIN for the damn DC. He got a 26 this time. Now, since only mine, Dave, and Tom’s characters
were there, the others could not really protest it, ‘cause no metagaming, and Sasuke used
that to his advantage. “Well they, Sarah, Shelby, Mike did not say
anything against it, so it is just you 3 that have an issue with it…” We bickered back and forth, and got him to
say he would stop rolling after about 15 minutes of fighting about it. Spoilers: He did not stop. We get back to the Adventurer’s Guild and
are told that if we want to go back into the dungeon i.e. further the plot we have to join
a Familia DanMachi. Our choices are:
Hephaestus, Goddess of the Forge. Hestia, Goddess of Hearth and Home. Takemikazuchi, Warrior God of Battle and Honor. Arcrath explains that he already serves a
God, Bahamut, the Platinum Dragon Godking and that his Faith and Service will be to
Bahamut first and foremost. Sasuke was salty as hell about it, but finally
acquiesced. Lady Hephaestus agreed, and Dave, Tom, and
I joined the Hephaestus Familia. We gained Proficiency in Smith Tools and Tom’s
character gained Expertise, since he already had proficiency which was good, since our
plan is to make our own weapons and armor to save money. Also, Me, Dave and Tom have a 10% discount
on buying raw materials. So that is also nice. Vagaris and Vashedan join Takemikazuchi’s
familia, and Vagaris tries to out-swordplay the literal god of battle. It goes about as well as you would think. Everyone laughs at him, In character, and
Out of character. All in all, the session was a wash. Some good, some bad. Session 4: Vagaris’s death: So, session 4… not a lot happens. There’s a ball, the Gods want to show off
their children, and Apollo takes a liking to Vagaris. Long story short, Apollo Charms Vagaris, and
since Vagaris was a tool to everyone including Takemikazuchi, and no one was too keen on
helping him. Apollo… I will be blunt, Apollo… takes advantage
of him. I mean, you can’t really say “no” when you
are under a Dominate Creature spell… and the player rage quits the game. Has his character commits Seppuku, and left
the group chat. Do I think Sasuke went a little too far? Kinda. Was it necessary to knock Mike’s character
down a couple pegs and humble him so he stops being the biggest jerk in 100 miles? YES! Also, Luxanna left us after not getting to
blow anything up. Session 4 was funny, but also infuriating
with it’s railroading… The entire situation where Vagaris was an
unbearable jerk to everyone, including the literal Gods and Goddesses, then had something
bad happen to him and no one would interject ‘cause he deserved it was the needed lesson. To be honest, we did not know that Apollo
was going to do that to him; we may have intervened if we had known that, cause yeah, doing that
is crossing the line… but Vagaris needed to be taught a lesson, and it was either that,
or my Paladin was going to Smite him so hard he would wish he was in bed with Apollo… Session 5: A DMPC too far: Session 5 takes us back into the dungeon,
and we have a tag-along with us. A member of the Takemikazuchi familia is guiding
us through the dungeon. Ok, another party member. This can’t go wrong, right? Ha. I wish. We are yada-yada’d through a bit of the dungeon
and come upon a Yeti CR 9. We are all now Level 6, and there’s 4 of us. Me, Dave, Tom, and Shelby Ok, not too bad. We get hit with the Yeti’s Chilling Gaze,
and only Tom breaks free. The Yeti dies eventually, and Shelby’s character
yells at the NPC for not helping us. The NPC whose name I still do not remember
says, “Well, I wanted to see how you would fare in combat. I was testing you. If you were going to die I could have killed
it for you”. That is right, the NPC could have one-shot
a CR 9 Yeti. Fun Fact: Abominable Yetis have an average
137 HP. Dave and I can’t say anything because we are
stunned, but Vashedan tears into her verbally, basically saying “we do not answer to you. We answer to our Gods. Either you are going to help us, or you are
going to leave us alone. Those are your options. Take them, or leave them. I don’t care.” Us players were really pissed off after that,
so we decided to end the session there. With the holidays and schedule issues, we
have not been able to play. However, Shelby and I did have a talk with
the DM, and told him “Look, Sasuke, we like you as a person, and we like the setting so
far. But you need to stop with the all powerful
DMPCs, and you need to stop rolling for DCs that are not contested”. He tried to defend himself saying, “You just
don’t understand why I’m doing this” and it went back and forth for 30 minutes before
me and Shelby finally said, “Shut up, and listen. It does not matter why. The issue is that you are doing it at all,
and if you do not stop, the four of us are going to drop the game. Do you understand us?” He finally said yes, so hopefully it is fixed. We have another session tonight so we’ll see… Session 6: A light at the end of the tunnel?: Just got out of tonight’s session, and it
went remarkably well. It was a little rocky due to some miscommunication
between the DM and us (mainly because the DM and I were a bit fuzzy headed because of
pain pills), but he stopped rolling for DCs that are not contested, and the NPCs (apparently
there are 2 of them now, that was news to us) were not OP enough to one shot things,
and actually helped us fight. Gar was nearly taken out by 2 Nat 20 attacks
in a row, but thanks to her Barbarian’s Rage she survived (gotta love that damage resistance!). All in all, it was a good session. If Sasuke keeps on this track, then I won’t
be making any more posts about it. But rest assured, I will be making more posts
if he starts doing the stupid crap he was doing again… I really hope he does not though, because
I like the setting. Is the setting worth the pain and struggle? Maybe in the end the DM will improve and everyone
will be happy. We’ll see! Please tell us of your experiences and comment
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  2. Bo-jivan Parker January 27, 2020 at 1:14 am

    first 44 seconds i fell personally attacked

  3. carlottaemma January 27, 2020 at 1:14 am

    The writer really should be taking more of an issue with a player’s character being raped to be ‘taught a lesson’… that’s gross. Bad DM and bad player.

  4. Drasset January 27, 2020 at 1:23 am

    I bet the DM has changing rolls because the players are in a dream state or a god is changing the world to thwart the party

  5. X X January 27, 2020 at 1:26 am

    5:27 So like the Underdark.

  6. Dark_Tail January 27, 2020 at 1:27 am

    OP: Complains about there being a town inside a dungeon.
    Me: (Gets flashbacks to Skullport.)

    Got to say though, for a new GM, he wasn't that bad. Yeah a bit cringy but so were just about every GMs first time. Sometimes using what we know allows us to get into it easier. My first homebrew campaign was inspired by Lord of the Rings and Monty Python. To be honest, the OP wasn't exactly a ray of sunshine either.

  7. X X January 27, 2020 at 1:29 am

    7:29 Shouldn't a lawful neutral character follow the creed 'the law's the law'?

  8. DeludedOne January 27, 2020 at 1:30 am

    Finally a Stupid aligned character, I'm sure things went well.

    Yup, the setting, though cringy, wasn't the problem, the DM was, and he was new to this (and stubborn) so yeah, that.

  9. Tim Woods January 27, 2020 at 1:37 am

    I had a new DM who didn't realize that level 1 players are soft and squishy. He had me, a dwarf cleric with around 16hp, start the conflict which had me against three kobalts each with 8hp. I was KOed after about 3 rounds. Our ranger didn't fair much better having to fight 4 or 5 himself in close combat with his bow. He had to turn into his wolf form just to avoid them killing him and making it to the side of our dragon born paladin (who was mvp of the campaign.) Thankfully that was a learning experience for our DM and by the next session we were fighting opponents we could kill without too much trouble.

  10. clericofchaos1 January 27, 2020 at 1:37 am

    Are you seriously taking this jackass's side? "Ooh i'm gonna hate on this system so many people love because fuck them", "ooh i'm gonna make a dragonborn paladin, literally the 2nd most basic class and race in the game and continue to bitch about the mechanics for the rest of the game", "ooh i'm gonna hate on the dm because he made a few harmless homebrew rule changes like a contested check instead of a fixed dc", "Now i'm gonna hate on the dm because we had two players drop in one session and he had to create a single dmnpc to fill the two slots in the group". Dude shut the fuck up. Maybe the dm's not the best but it sure as hell doesn't sound like he's done anything wrong and all you've done is bitch and complain. Worse still, you and other players have bullied the poor guy into bowing to your every whim. Maybe he just had cool ideas that he wanted to try out, but no you couldn't stand that. your way or the highway right?…asshole.

  11. LordDeraj January 27, 2020 at 1:43 am

    Yeah using anime characters as npcs is kinda sucky and the DM is definitely inexperienced but OP sounds like a total dbag.

    Side note, I kinda want that DM screen

  12. Craig Tucker January 27, 2020 at 1:59 am

    I find it amusing that there is a complaint about 5e lore contradicting previous lore and that the same player prefers 3/3.5 which flagrantly and repeatedly violated the original lore of the original game produced from TSR. From the mechanics which introduce leveled power gaming and nerfed dying to removing the consequence of making choices like how dwarves could not normally be wizards or allowing priests to exchange uncast spells for healing spells. The writing for 3/3.5e of what was canon for specific settings was basically disregarded and became nonsensical.I thought that was the bottom of the barrel, but then came 4e which demonstrated that one can always lift up the barrel and dig under the barrel to reach a new low in story writing.

  13. Sector Black January 27, 2020 at 2:00 am

    I have to say, whatever issues the DM has aside, the person who wrote the story is an entitled whiny asshole. If I were the DM, I would have kicked their ass is straight out of my game.

    If you don't like the game the DM's running, you leave. You don't try to give an ultimatum telling them that it's either going to be your way or the highway.

  14. Pipe Smoking Heathen January 27, 2020 at 2:02 am

    I'm gonna be honest. I'm getting "whiney rules lawyer" vibes from this story

  15. chicken king January 27, 2020 at 2:39 am

    Session 0 to session 2

  16. Jonathan Schneider January 27, 2020 at 2:56 am

    Even more important than Rule 0 is the rule of "Never put any sex stuff in your D&D adventures unless you are 100% certain all your players would be okay with that." In other words, don't run a "Game of Thrones" style adventure when your players want to be in "Lord of the Rings".

    (I suppose this goes under the rule of "Have fun", but it bears mentioning specifically.)

  17. Jaycob Harders January 27, 2020 at 3:13 am

    Honestly, the DM doesn’t sound that bad, the world he made, while being just a bit too weeb, sound like it could be fun. His only problem was that he was inexperienced, and didn’t do things how the player wanted until the player started yelling at him. If anything, the player sounds like the terrible person in this scenario, since all he seems to do is complain that things aren’t what they used to be, and that this DM is “So terrible.”

  18. Blazingle January 27, 2020 at 3:18 am

    you dare mispronounce megumin

  19. Lazy Cacao January 27, 2020 at 3:19 am

    Alan Scott

  20. Horatio aka Jeremy Johnson January 27, 2020 at 3:33 am

    How dare a GM make his world using various sources for inspiration and examples. He'd hate my world too in that case.

  21. K_Xdad31415926 January 27, 2020 at 3:33 am

    dude is too young to have played original…

  22. Dane Plays Games Badly January 27, 2020 at 3:34 am

    Honestly I’d say this is mild on weeb terms. There were a few anime like elements but nothing too over the top. Sounds more like a player pissed that he didn’t get his way and came into the game with preconceived negativity

  23. MoonLight January 27, 2020 at 3:37 am

    "Level 5, basic starting gear, don't be evil; that's all we were told"
    What more do you need?

  24. Tristan Betterelli January 27, 2020 at 3:38 am

    Ok I have to say one thing and this is get inspiration from things all things including anime but don’t rip stuff out or at least don’t make a ripped character part of main plot that’s always a good lesson to learn

  25. Logan S January 27, 2020 at 3:41 am

    This doesn't sound like the best campaign, the DM probably should've listened more to criticisms and not continued to roll uncontested rolls after promising he would stop. Plus dead-end plot lines are always annoying if you thought they actually sounded interesting. Plus the DM probably should've been more forthcoming about what he was expecting rather than practically force his players to wrench details out of him. The "One-shot" situation is washy, it honestly probably wouldn't have even caused a hiccup had the NPC just not said anything and provided light aid to prevent confrontation.

    That being said, it honestly didn't sound like that bad a game. Using familiar settings helps keep the setting clear enough without levying tons of work and stress on a newbie DM. It was more being angry with small hick-ups that probably weren't worth arguing about, the chain story for example (You could've just hit it again). The DM had a hard time estimating the relative strength of the party but managed a number of entertaining encounters regardless.

    HOWEVER, the Apollo situation is definitely a push into uncomfortable territory as far as I'm concerned.

    Overall: Rocky, but not without its high notes, but the DM needs to understand where the players are coming from which he doesn't seem open to discussing.

  26. shadowforger11 January 27, 2020 at 3:54 am

    While the narrartor is an ass, I can't pardon the DM for "taking advantage" of a Player Character after charming them. You never cross that line.

  27. WitD2013 January 27, 2020 at 3:56 am

    Honestly, while the DM makes a lot of mistakes (i.e. rolling for uncontested DCs, bad DMPCs, not giving the players any info) and things I'd personally balk at (i.e. the huge mash-ups of anime, heavy-handed railroading, and uhhh… the god "taking advantage of" a PC sexually was especially bad), the player seems like the real problem here.

    I don't mind mixmaxing stats too much (I mean, what wizard is gonna put their lowest stat into INT in 5e?), but he goes a step beyond and abuses probably one of the most powerful combos of tunnel fighter and most of the various opportunity attack enhancing feats. The only thing they didn't do was use a polearm and polearm mastery, but I suspect that's because they wanted a shield for the extra AC (as AC early on is more important to a character's survival). On top of that, they're metagaming, and trying to play it off as "but I'm doing it in character!" They didn't try and roll for anything to see if they caught the black eyes, or if they could recognize the Dark Speech or anything which would have had the same effect BUT would have given the character a reason to act the way they did.

    But beyond ALL of that, they're going about calling out the DM in the worst possible, and rudest way. They seem to only be playing 5e solely they can finally say they've played 5e, so their hatred of it months and months before this game was justified.

    Really, this is just so different from your usual or similar stories of bad DMs because the player isn't the hero. They're just as much at fault as they're an experienced DnD veteran, who instead of trying to help guide a brand new DM, just want to shit on them for not being perfect or acting like an experienced DM with dozens of successful campaigns under their belt.

  28. James Mahon January 27, 2020 at 3:57 am

    That's just sad, no explode or setting things on fire? I'm out. Just wow

  29. Sam Mansfield January 27, 2020 at 4:23 am

    This guy sounds like a complete wangrod. "I hate 5e" "My character's unbeatable" "the DM won't let me be the main character"…fuck this guy.

  30. JustFer Kicks January 27, 2020 at 4:26 am

    Honestly this player sounds like a tool. The DM May be inexperienced and adds some house rules like the lock check (which is a bit sus, but whatever) sounded like player was just a jaded power gamer who cried cause it wasn’t going his way.

  31. Polarthief January 27, 2020 at 4:28 am

    So overall:
    – Mixed bag of good and bad.
    – Newbie weeb DM but actually listens.
    – Some people ragequit but nothing that was too insane.
    Yeah… I was expecting some kind of payoff to this story as it seemed to be building up to something, but it ended very mellow and "meh, whatever, we'll see if it's still good".
    PS: OP sounds more like he should have a horror story about him more than inexperienced DM who seems to have learned a bit and become less resistant to change.

  32. Shady aura January 27, 2020 at 4:34 am

    I have only played 5e dnd for around 2 years. Is 5th edition bad? Or is this guy a meta gaming power gamer?

  33. Cameron Grampsas January 27, 2020 at 4:48 am

    This sounds exactly like the plot to is it wrong to pick up a girl in a dungeon

  34. allybear68 January 27, 2020 at 4:49 am

    I don't think I could ever forgive a DM that would have my character raped without my input. I don't care how much of an asshole the character was, rape is never a just punishment and it is never deserved. End of story

  35. Milo Kurcrane January 27, 2020 at 4:52 am

    You can't claim to metagame and claim 100% in character. He admits to metagaming influencing his character. No offense but this player lost me at 7 minutes. Hating 5e, claiming it's restrictive, opening with claims about vast experience, and poor name choice for the dm makes this video sounds dumb to me. It's not a story I wanna hear.

  36. skullz190373 January 27, 2020 at 4:54 am

    Seems to me the guy met the wrong DM. If in the beginning you don't even know what kind of campaign it is gonna be. Alarm bells should already be ringing and make it clear that if he wants to play that way your not joining. At least in my honest opinion. I first didn't like 5e, but at least it is an improvement after 4e and for beginning players 5e is a good start for roleplaying. After I played a few one-shots and campaigns i really like it, but hey that is my point of view.

  37. wbadkins3152 January 27, 2020 at 4:56 am

    One more whiny story will probably have be dropping this channel.

  38. quixote badger January 27, 2020 at 5:13 am

    JUST FIREBALL!

  39. Creed x Ender January 27, 2020 at 5:27 am

    I'm not even a minute in and I'd probably use half my in-game arsenal on this guy…

    Edit: I should probably clarify I mean the narrator.

  40. Andrey Chaves León January 27, 2020 at 5:34 am

    Im just imagining Ainz somehow ruling over a third of hell and thinking "eh? How did this happen?"

  41. StevoM08 January 27, 2020 at 5:49 am

    I’m really not a fan of these “DM horror story” episodes. But man that all sounded pretty miserable. If you’re going to do something inspired by an IP at least have the creativity to change names and such.

  42. Listrovis Helknight January 27, 2020 at 6:26 am

    Ok I know all of those animes he used. They are great ideas, but not the best to merge together. Danmachi is based on the writers D&D adventures too. Man this made me remember something funny though. The DM's idea is not bad just in the beginning was poorly executed. If they stay on this track it should be great. Although they might wanna not base the whole thing off of Danmachi season 2. Since that season had some..moments (that's also how Apollo was in the anime.) Also it sounds like 4 animes were used for the story but also a fifth. Cause I'm gonna guess he got the bunny girl possibly from Arifureta (From Commonplace to World's Strongest.) All in all not a bad story. I need to submit one someday.

  43. Zeke Blight January 27, 2020 at 6:29 am

    not gonna lie, even though the dm didnt sound fantastic, the player playing the story sounds like more of an asshole. i dont think hed have a place at my table for dnd

  44. Travis I January 27, 2020 at 6:40 am

    This title was bad enough but I don’t like the writer either. No need for a continuation.

  45. Falinmer January 27, 2020 at 6:48 am

    I dont understand the people who say they hate 1 system over another. I personally prefer 3.5 because of all the crazy that can happen, but I appreciate 5e for being so grounded. If I'm teaching a new player, I normally start with 5e, as it's so much simpler than 3.5. I prefer 5e for roleplay as well, since you cant build a diplomancer to make that pointless. I'm lucky that my 3.5 group normally builds actual characters, not just munchkins, so we can have fun with it without the restraints. We also homebrew some rules to mitigate meta gaming and min maxing (our main rule being dont break the game or a dmpc will break us, not meant to be a threat, just a reminder of how boring it can make things). Theres a lot to both systems and they both have their strengths. Overall, play what you enjoy.

  46. Cody Newkirk January 27, 2020 at 6:49 am

    Ya the OP in this sorda sounds like a know it all dick. The beginning about hating 5e without any real reason was annoying aswell, they also make it obvious with how they act, the reason they prefer 3.5. Feel bad for the DM, ya they made mistakes but they were new.

  47. hey ernie January 27, 2020 at 6:51 am

    All around toxic, threatening to leave unless you get your way should be your first red flag. This player/group sounded too whiny for my taste. I wont be watching a part two if there is one. Starting out with "i loathe" already had me turned off of this one, but as it went on it reminded me of toxic groups I've played with in the past. It is a game, if you're not having fun, don't join that group or talk with said group and agree on something before starting a game.

  48. DZ January 27, 2020 at 7:02 am

    This one was painful to watch…
    Rape is not okay, no matter what context you give it, even "knocking down someone a few pegs."
    The fact he said he hated it before he even tried it ruins any argument he has.
    This wasn't funny, it wasn't epic, it wasn't even putting a bad player in their place. It was mainly listening to a guy complain and argue endlessly.

  49. Sapphire Crook January 27, 2020 at 7:07 am

    I can't stand people who start their stories with their irrelevant and often detrimental pedigree, as if its a magical spell that precludes them from being wrong or their own bad actions being justified.
    And holy crap, there is SO MUCH unnecessary detail. I was bored during the rant, and to hear him detail characters you know are barely relevant like that. Ugh. Just get to the point.
    Brevity is the soul of wit; bloat is the soul of boredom.

  50. Cailean Seolaimh January 27, 2020 at 7:21 am

    Literally the only thing I agree with is that it wasn't right for the DM to just have a PC be (in sfw wording) "taken advantage of" like that. Unless the player wanted that to happen then he shouldn't have done it. I'd frankly be just as pissed if the DM did that out of no where without talking to me first.

  51. I-am-Knot January 27, 2020 at 7:41 am

    Don't get me wrong I enjoy your videos. But so many seem to be about complaining about something. I really like the ones where people are stoked about their adventures. Those are my favourites.

  52. Havoc X Chaos January 27, 2020 at 8:28 am

    Honestly i would say that the players where being to bossy with how the DM decided to do things cuz i am a firm believer of what the dm says goes. But it is the DMs job to set standards and expectations. He should of had a session zero and set table rules to talk over how he was gonna handle things. I understand not wanting to tell players it's anime themed to keep plot secrets but still should have gave information on the Champaign. However i have players who don't listen and they like to tell me I never laid out certain table rules when we clearly went over this exact scenario. So could be just a player who likes to bully newer dms to getting their way.

  53. Gormathius Nightstrider January 27, 2020 at 8:29 am

    …I think my face cringed into the back of my skull when I heard "Megoomin".

  54. Antoine Lambert January 27, 2020 at 8:30 am

    Op is a man of taste.

  55. Satyr Ghost January 27, 2020 at 8:34 am

    This player sounds so much worse to play with than the DM does. And the way tries to justify the PC rape with "he was an asshole so he deserved it" is the grossest thing about this story.

  56. Joel Thurston January 27, 2020 at 8:43 am

    Am I the only that thinks this player is just complaining about everything? At the beginning he states he absolutely hates 5e with every fiber of his body, and then go on about how much he enjoys playing, likes his feats and abilities. It honestly just seems like he ragging on the dm for liking anime. Hope this doesn't get a second video.

  57. Peter Gratham January 27, 2020 at 9:01 am

    Player:: I hate DnD 5e…
    me:: ok….
    Player:: …. I’d never played 5e…
    Me::😒
    Honestly the player sounds just as bad as the dm. He’s mad… but there doesn’t seem to be a real reason to be mad, except those checks where the DM was rolling for the DC. This was a disappointing one 0/10 would not recommend.

  58. Kirashio January 27, 2020 at 9:03 am

    Of all the dumb stuff this player says, I think the one which jumped out at me most was that he said he looked up the DC for breaking chains and insisted the DM use it, as if all chains in the universe are equally difficult to break. It shows that the player is fundamentally treating the game like a video game, a mechanical construct with set immutable rules, rather than a role playing game.

  59. Hippoty hoppity this is Mine now January 27, 2020 at 9:07 am

    So basically my DM

  60. Koroc Pien January 27, 2020 at 9:14 am

    The Player is such a jerk….

  61. Matthew Dykeman January 27, 2020 at 10:06 am

    I like how the Paladin was complaining about the DMpc one-shoting things whilst also using a paladin build made for one-shoting things. As a Paladin player myself with the exact build he mentioned in the video he'd be doing around a consistent 40-50 dmg per attack.

  62. Kyman102 January 27, 2020 at 10:17 am

    OP: Opens with a long-winded rant about how 5e is the dumbest Edition

    Me: Oh this is gonna hurt.

    Yeah, to echo what other people are saying, this is a "That Guy" story from the perspective of That Guy. Maybe the GM's going a bit far in a few cases but it feels like he's just inexperienced and making some mistakes while the OP is being a jackass. Nothing against the reading, just dislike the choice of material.

  63. Joao Paulo Soncin January 27, 2020 at 10:36 am

    The start of the video made me drop it, and the comments made me not even want to listen to everything. Sorry, I really love the channel but this one it's just a big no.

    Reminds me a bit of 'TheSpoonyOne' """"""Review""""""" of D&D 5e, which was basically him crying about the different things about 5e rulebook without actually ever playing or giving it a chance.

    For the comments I have read, I really wish the DM can get more experience and better players, while OP may try to calm down about being a 3.5e puritan.

  64. Paul Baldwin January 27, 2020 at 10:44 am

    I like anime don’t get me wrong but if I saw it dnd I wouldn’t be interested

  65. Daniel Noctum January 27, 2020 at 11:34 am

    I was so afraid this was about me until I heard the part about the DM not communicating the setting to the players. Luckily I do that thoroughly with my players before session 0. Honestly I keep expecting my past players to submit a story about me XD Glad I haven't shown up as one of those bad DMs tho. Thanks for posting and narrating all of these!

  66. Nightshade 52 January 27, 2020 at 11:54 am

    A PC straight up got raped and people are complaining about the poster? Look, some of this guy's complaints were a little harsh and he could have handled confronting the DM better, but the part about the player character getting taken advantage of went way too far. I'm a girl and if a DM did something like that to one of my characters I would straight up quit. I'm lucky since most of the groups in my area have a solid "no rape" rule. One guy tried to go against it and kept trying to have his character be a rape and pillage Orc character, but the DM gave a female NPC a powerful Npc bodyguard and the bodyguard curb stomped the players character. That's how you deal with a**hole players, not by letting them get raped. I don't blame that guy for killing his character off and leaving the group.

  67. Smokey Savant January 27, 2020 at 11:57 am

    I just want to point out that an anime based campaign is possible in Dungeons and Dragons but requires a lot of rule changes and a lot of work on the DM's part. Plus not everyone at the table may be on board. Your best option for this is a game system like Exalted which is based on incredible feats and storytelling. If everyone is on board with an anime setting and game style than use BESM. The d20 system is not the only RPG system out there and is not always suitable for every playstyle. There's a whole world of table top games out there, don't be afraid to explore it.

  68. Vladimir Serpov January 27, 2020 at 12:03 pm

    Hey, All things DnD, pick good ones please.

    I get it,views give revenue but don't chase quantity over quality.

  69. evilbeardedman January 27, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    OP sounds like a total asshole. Metagaming, abusing game rules, minmaxing, hating his group and whining all the way through it. It's irrelevant if the DM was bad when he had a player like this.

  70. Jeff Thompson January 27, 2020 at 12:38 pm

    Shameful on so many levels between playerS, DM, child-like "story", endless ego, and staggering interpersonal communication problems.

  71. Jeff Thompson January 27, 2020 at 12:38 pm

    Shameful on so many levels between playerS, DM, child-like "story", endless ego, and staggering interpersonal communication problems.

  72. Artemis_Swift January 27, 2020 at 1:17 pm

    I've never seen any of the anime mentioned, but the setting does sound interesting and I'd be interested in hearing more about the setting; hopefully the dm can find a better group to run it with. I hope they don't lose their interest in running.

  73. Richard Clark January 27, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    "I'm a OG D&D player and I loathe 5e"

    T H A N K Y O U. N E X T

  74. Ryan Downs January 27, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    I'm fine with people disliking 5e, but every time I hear about someone not liking 5e it's immediately followed by them talking about how they were able to do something completely ridiculous because of a a dozen rules and interactions in their favorite system. Maybe the REAL reason they don't like 5e is because they can't cheese it to the same degree :-p

  75. Edmond666777 January 27, 2020 at 1:41 pm

    wow this player is a total twat

  76. Kyle MacBeth January 27, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    Sometimes this channel feels like a weird space where D&D nerds try to make themselves feel superior to anime nerds. (Insert Spiderman pointing at himself meme)

  77. Cpt. Kiwi January 27, 2020 at 1:56 pm

    The writer of this story sounds like a tool. Dm sounds fine.

  78. Greg Gorman January 27, 2020 at 1:57 pm

    Sounds like a player getting to be a problem not a dm. The rolling could have had something to do with effects your under but do not know about yet.

  79. liskacek1 January 27, 2020 at 2:06 pm

    Normally I enjoy all your narrated D&D stories. This one I had to stop not even 5 minutes in. Sorry, but this one was below your standard quality. (Not your narration, but the contents)

  80. SquatBenchDeadlift January 27, 2020 at 2:29 pm

    I thought this was going to be one of the stories I read about DMs obsessing over Black Clover or Fairy Tail. Now those were cases of really bad DMs.

  81. Craig Shanks January 27, 2020 at 2:32 pm

    The poster was nothing but disdainful and negative from the start. This isn’t an epic tale in any way. Not a fan of this vid, very much out of character for this page.

  82. Gonçalo Carneiro January 27, 2020 at 2:37 pm

    All the DM's faults can be attributed to innocent ignorance and possibly peer pressure and can be resolved permanently with a little talk after the game. Meanwhile the player is a humongous veteran and is making "that guy" moves. Sounds like this isn't exactly a story about a shitty DM, more like a newbie DM with 0 guidance and uncooperative players.

  83. Grimm Crag January 27, 2020 at 2:42 pm

    Interesting plot twist: turns out the player was the asshole all along….

  84. RedwoodTheElf January 27, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    "Hearth" does NOT rhyme with "Earth" It rhymes with "Garth"

  85. iminvalhallabitches January 27, 2020 at 3:03 pm

    3.5 is my favorite…said every nestalgic loser ever.

  86. Robert Rodriguez January 27, 2020 at 3:26 pm

    There is no pain and struggle. The player or OP in this video was an asshole and a "that guy" player.

  87. Steve O'Carroll January 27, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    If they like the setting, sure. If they want to go ahead, sure. If the DM is open to his players and follows their advice, sure (this is the way a DM grows in ability, and could become a great DM). If the DM is a giant douche, otoh, hell no.

  88. Cody Williamson January 27, 2020 at 4:32 pm

    I've never heard of someone loathing 5e because it is restrictive. I find it to be significantly less restrictive then previous editions.

  89. kronos1794 January 27, 2020 at 4:42 pm

    Me: Hey, my name is Bob
    DM: Hey, my name is Sasuke
    Me:… Ight, I'm out

  90. Zoro22thegod January 27, 2020 at 4:42 pm

    Holy cow this Setting was a cluster fuck, it whould be a nightmare just to make it work.

  91. Robert Siegle January 27, 2020 at 4:59 pm

    Wow this came across as so whiny

  92. Linda Dawson January 27, 2020 at 5:23 pm

    In defense of the OP this is a guy who is giving 5E a chance. Maybe he sounds a bit whiny due to pent of frustration of dealing with a clueless cringey DM. What the DM did wrong

    1) Poor communication. Your players need to know starting level, starting wealth and what their characters would reasonably know about the world around them.
    2) starting a level 5 character with level 1 gear. I admit I have only played 3.5 tabletop and have limited interaction with 2E via computer game Baulders Gate. Sending out level 5 characters with level 1 gear is asking for a TPK.
    3) a good DM finds a way to make everyone's background relevant to the plot
    4) session 0. Introduce all house rules there. Explain why dont just have things crop up mid game or it comes across as if you are punishing your players for being successful.
    5) Cringe nonconsensual sex is cause for me as a DM to kick a player. When that happened they should have all left the game. Some lines should not be crossed.

  93. Scare Crow January 27, 2020 at 5:38 pm

    Seeing as I was in this DMs shoes at one point, I get why he was making the little mess ups once in a while. The players were just being bitchy

  94. Kenzo Staelens January 27, 2020 at 5:42 pm

    too much anime in one
    danmashi
    konosuba
    overlord(awesome wizard mc tho)
    (naruto for name(sasuke))
    rising of the shield hero
    at least add log horizon, which is an actual good rp anime

  95. Cymo NET January 27, 2020 at 6:10 pm

    Wow! This player is a jerk.
    The DM is a little cringy and learning the rules and the game, just give him time and he may turn out to be a good DM. He doesn't sound like a stupid asshole, just very new to the game.
    On the other hand, the "non-meta gaming powerhouse meta-in character" player…

  96. Brandon Minnis January 27, 2020 at 6:19 pm

    Sounds to me like the DM is terrible, but I'm not sure what the 5e format had to do with it.

  97. Kyle Griffin January 27, 2020 at 6:34 pm

    I wanna know how the guy was getting opportunity attacks on creatures approaching him without PAM.

  98. wolfy blackknight January 27, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    the dm don't sound like the worst I mean ok the rape thing not cool never good idea as for the rolling for dc checks did anyone explain to him that the reason they have a set dc is so you don't accidentally make something unwinnable by design I mean a dc 25 you need a 20 in a stat and to role a 20 that's a 5% chance of success assuming you even have a 20 strength I mean if you want to give a high dc for a low level party maybe split the middle and if you can roll over a certain point like say 10 "ok you don't break the lock or the chain but it starts to warp and bend under the strain" maybe flat out tell them the dc just went down and they can keep doing that to break it so its not a pass fail thing and more of a "your rolling more to see how long this takes you" also dmpc is watching to see how the party fights sees 3 of them taken out right off the bat and dose nothing to help I mean you want to make a dmpc fine but don't make them op as hell and just have them watch the party struggle have them do something maybe its a caster throwing slow at someone or haste on one of the party or you know maybe they are a rouge they hide do some sneak attacks I mean it depends on the build a caster might be less head on "I got limited spells if you guys can handle things I'll save them for when its needed" point iso your helping but not hogging the spotlight kinda light a stage hand you might not be center stage captivating the audience with your performance but you handle the small stuff and keep the show going like anyone who wants to see what I mean there's this vid obongo the kobald

  99. Hope Crew January 27, 2020 at 6:48 pm

    The fact that the player who wrote this goes to length to excuse and justify the DM having a PC raped is everything I need to know about the player.

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