Anti-vaxxers exposed: Hidden camera investigation (Marketplace)

[♪♪♪] [Asha] There we are.
Right there. Yeah. Vaccines are destroying
the lives of countless children. [Asha] We’re tracking
down the leaders of a movement. Vaccines cause autism. [Asha] Pushing fear. We do not want our
children experimented upon. [Asha] And misinformation. We’re in Washington D.C. And we’re waiting outside a
big VIP event tonight with the world’s biggest
anti-vax leaders. Rolling. [Asha] They don’t
trust mainstream media. So we’re sending producers in
with hidden cameras posing as activists to expose the
movement’s inner workings. We’re going to get to the real
heart of this and why they push this anti-vax message. We must not allow forced
injections into the human body. [Asha] The movement’s
leaders are hard to miss. We spot three of the biggest,
Robert F Kennedy Jr, JFK’s nephew, and head of a non-profit that funded anti-vax ads
like this. Andrew Wakefield, the disgraced
physician whose bogus study famously linked
vaccines to autism. Del Bigtree, a controversial
filmmaker, speaker and host. He’s spent much of his
career defending Wakefield. He gave up on saving his
own ass and his own career to save children. [Asha] And they’re
treated like rock stars. [Asha] Conversations
are flowing. There are even
anti-vaxers from Canada. [Asha] Other activists,
quick to share their strategies. [Asha] Secret because
openly anti-vax groups could get flagged
on social media. So, they use crafty names. [♪♪♪] [Asha] Back in Canada… So we’re just outside Ottawa
and we’re about to meet two moms who are sisters and they have
a really unique story to tell about being vaccine hesitant. This one is someone else’s. [Asha] Meggan is
a mother of three. Okay, everybody, we
need to wash some hands. [Asha] Tara, a mother of ten. They know all too well how
convincing anti-vax messaging can be. It was really compelling
headlines like “my child was “never the same again”. Lots of regression,
lots of death. Lots of babies dying. That kind of thing is
really, really scary. [Asha] When they see posts
like this, Meggan and Tara begin to doubt. I didn’t want them to be the
tiny percentage to be injured by a vaccine. I just kind of froze in fear
and didn’t make any decision at all. [Asha] But when they do
more digging, they have trouble verifying the claims. I thought there was this
wealth of well-documented, well-referenced, like,
incontrovertible evidence that all the claims that
vaccines are bad for you. All this smoke,
where’s the fire? I was pissed. [Asha] They finally
decide to vaccinate. But it’s too late. We had made the decision to
vaccinate them, and the reason that we didn’t make the
appointment is because they were coughing. And they were sick. [Asha] And it was
the whooping cough. It was whooping cough. [Asha] Thousands of children
died every year before the vaccine existed. And kids who get it
today can still die from it. These are Tara’s kids, all infected. Meggan’s three unvaccinated
kids end up sick, too. They’re put into quarantine. [Infant hacking] My youngest was a year old. And he was born premature. So, had that happened
a year earlier, he could have died. [Infant hacking] I cannot even explain the
self-recrimination and the guilt and the fear. I was like, I did that. We’re vulnerable to
misinformation because we’re so– we so dearly
want to do the right thing. [Asha] The kind of messaging
Tara and Meggan fell for is exactly what we’re hearing
at this anti-vax rally in Washington. It’s the most significant
medical issue in society today, is the injury from vaccinations. This is a war
for our children. This a war for their minds,
for their bodies. [Asha] With many making false claims about
the harm vaccines can cause. I know that it can cause
allergies, auto-immune issues. There’s spectrum autisms. Eczema, you know, seizures. These are things that are
affecting children. There’s no evidence to
support any of the concerns. [Asha] Timothy Caulfield,
public health expert and author of a book debunking
vaccine myths. And not only– This isn’t even speculative.
This is what the science says. [Asha] Let’s go
through some of the claims. -Allergies?
-No evidence to support it. -Auto-immune disease.
-No evidence. [Asha] What about seizures? There are rare risks
where kids do have seizures. You have to remember
that kids can get that kind of seizure from a
variety of ailments. [Asha] Fact, side
effects are very rare. For every million vaccinations,
only one to two severe allergic reactions. Despite these stats, nearly
half of Canadians have concerns about vaccine safety. And according to the World
Health Organization, that’s known as “vaccine hesitancy”,
a top global health threat. You have, on the one side,
the hardcore anti-vaxers. Then you have the
vaccination hesitant. These are people that are–
are uncertain about whether they should get their
kids vaccinated. And often these are just people
who are trying to do what’s best for their kids. Why do you think
vaccine hesitancy is so common? I think it’s common because
unfortunately the anti-vax messaging is working. [Asha] Several studies,
including this one that had hundreds of thousands of
kids, showed no link between the measles, mumps and rubella
vaccine, known as MMR, and autism. Yet it’s the biggest
myth that persists. And it can be traced back
to this study, with only 12 children. The study linking
MMR and autism is a sham? It is a sham,
and it’s been debunked. It was shown to be
completely fraudulent. [Asha] Yet Wakefield,
Kennedy Jr and Bigtree still push this lie. And it’s led to
outbreaks around the world. In Samoa, authorities recently
arrested an anti-vaxer for spreading misinformation
after a measles epidemic. More than 80 people died,
almost all of them children. It’s caused a
huge amount of harm. We’ve seen these outbreaks happen all over
the world, right? And it’s largely, not entirely,
but largely because of the spread of misinformation. [Asha] Back on hidden camera,
we want to learn more about their tactics, the business
behind their message. [Asha] We find out Bigtree
and Wakefield charge thousands of dollars to speak at events. And they’ve raised millions
through non-profits to fund their cause. [Asha] Others have more
creative ways of fundraising. This is James Lyons-Weiler. He runs a science-based
non-profit. He’s says he’s not an activist
even though he holds views like this. Vaccines can and DO
cause autism in some people. [Asha] How does
he raise his money? [Asha] He wants to be seen
as a scientist, so he proposes a workaround. [Asha] We’re told
for an event with 400 people it’ll cost $10,000. They must be
aware of the science. And this is a way of creating
celebrity, this is a way of creating demand, this is
a way of making a living. [Asha] James tells us
later over email that it’s not unexpected he gets
paid for his services. He says hosting an
event comes with costs. But in Washington, he offers
one piece of advice for free. [Asha] What’s going on? Challenge mandatory vaccination
policies, but they call it medical freedom. It’s so cynical. I didn’t expect them
to be so explicit about it. They have a very
particular, you know, agenda. I think part of it
is creating fear. How does hearing these claims
over and over again affect our decision making? Just being exposed to this
information makes it seem more believable and it invites a
little bit of doubt, which creates hesitancy. [♪♪♪] [Asha] We’re putting that
to the test… ..with a social experiment
showing how easily misinformation influences
the decisions we make. [Asha] Hi, everyone. I’m Asha Tomlinson
with CBC Marketplace. [Asha voice-over] This group
thinks they’re here for a forum about fake news. We want you to feel okay
in front of the cameras. So, what we’re gonna do
is a few warmup exercises. [Asha voice-over] But what
they don’t know, these warm up exercises
are really a series of tests created
with the help of our experts. Timothy Caulfield and Olivier
Drouin, a paediatrician who has a background in
behavioural science. I think it’s
going to be fascinating. [Asha] They’re in another
room watching and analyzing everything live. Welcome to
the fake news forum. [♪♪♪] [Asha] This is your Marketplace. Vaccine fears are growing. The anti-vax
message is working. [♪♪♪] We want to show you why it’s so
easy to fall for fake news about vaccine dangers. Welcome to the
fake news forum. [Asha voice-over] We’ve brought
in eight media savvy people. Two of them happen to
have doubts about vaccines. Parents like Elka. What if I take the vaccination
and something happens to me? [Asha voice-over] And Valerie. She’s heard all sorts
of anti-vax claims. Robert Kennedy Jr
has a very compelling video. It is the most potent
neurotoxin known to man that is not radioactive. [Asha] They’re here
for what they think is a forum on fake news. But they’re actually part of
a social experiment that our experts are secretly watching. [Asha] Our first experiment,
something called “identifiable victim bias”. Anti-vaxers will often focus
on one powerful story about a child who they say was
harmed by a vaccine. I think almost everyone
knows someone that has had a kid with an adverse reaction. I personally have not
experienced that with my kids but I know people that have. You know, most people come with
some question or worries about vaccination, they always start with, like, the story
of somebody. [Asha voice-over] To test that,
we present the group with two fictional causes with two
very different stories. And we give them
a pouch of money. There are one of two causes
that you can donate $5 to. This is Milo the dog. [forum member] Awwww. His owner was
attacked by another dog. And Milo courageously jumped
in, protected his owner, but suffered very serious injuries. The surgery is gonna
cost upwards of $1,500. [Asha voice-over] Let’s see how
this next story compares. This is the
Toronto Dog Society. Now, they help stray dogs
and troubled dogs find shelter. [Asha voice-over] This cause
helps many more dogs, not just one. But it’s harder to relate to. The costs are growing
and they just can’t keep up. [Asha voice-over] Remember,
people tend to be drawn to someone’s story
over bigger causes. Here we go.
Here we go. She went for
the Dog Society. -I would have guessed.
-Yeah! [Asha] Doesn’t work for Elka. Next up? Now this guy, shelter. -Oooohhh!
-Oooohhh! [Asha] Results of
our first bias test? 50% voted for Milo the dog. With something like
vaccines, you really only need 20, 30 per cent to be swayed
by this information to create a serious problem. [Asha] Now we’re testing for
something called omission bias. Our tendency to do nothing
when faced with tough choices. Parents won’t vaccinate
because they don’t want to be responsible for
harming their child. It’s so dangerous
to vaccinate. We’re just not–
not going to do it. [Asha] To test this bias,
we pull them aside and give them a choice. We’ll take $50 from one person,
or they can choose to take $40 from someone else. Choosing does less harm. But the bias suggests most
people will do nothing and let us take $50 from someone else. If you just let it happen,
then it feels more natural and so people feel less responsible. [Asha voice-over] And so
it begins. What will Ahmed do? I can do that. Oh, okay.
So, he’s taking it on himself. [Asha] Is that the
case for the others? Let’s see what Valerie does. -She’s uncertain.
-Yeah. I can’t do that.
I can’t do that. She said “I cannot do that,
I cannot pick one person”. Classic. She doesn’t want
to take the action. [Asha] Turns out most of the
people don’t want to take the money, they let us do it. You decide. Holy cow. This is a really strong
example of the omission bias. [Asha] Now we’re
testing for probability neglect. You have far greater risk of
getting a brain infection from the measles than suffering
a serious side effect from the vaccine. But those odds mean
nothing when you’re afraid. It was terrifying. “Oh, my gosh, I hope they’re
not the, you know, one in a “gazillion who is gonna
have some horrific reaction.” [Asha] To test this we need a
terrifying scenario our guests will want to avoid. Here we go. [all] Three, two, one. Voila. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. [Asha] The spider represents
every parent’s nightmare that your child will be
harmed by a vaccine. [Asha] So, gang, if
we draw a red ball it means you have
to hold the spider. Uh-oh. Red ball equals spider. Some people are not
excited about red balls! [Asha voice-over ] The only way
to avoid drawing the red ball is to pay up. But don’t you need to find
out what your chances are before giving away your money? We see quickly our
guests never ask. Those that are afraid, they haven’t asked
about what was the probability. -They just want to avoid it.
-Yeah. [Asha voice-over]
What’s Sharmon going to do? We can take out the
red balls for you if you give us some money. She’s pondering. Which means you’re safe. All right. -We don’t have to draw.
-Thank you! She looks pretty
pleased with the result, right?! Yeah, yeah, yeah. [Asha voice-over] Those that are
terrified pay up and never ask their odds. Ready? [Nervous laughter]
Yeah! -Red ball.
-Okay! [Asha voice-over] Then
there’s Martin. The test doesn’t work on
him ’cause he loves spiders. What a little princess. [Asha] Time for the big reveal. Well, there’s more
than meets the eye to this fake news forum. Okay, come on out, guys. [Laughter, applause] [Asha] This has been
a CBC experiment. Our experts have been watching
this whole time and analyzing your decisions. Oh, great. [Laughter] We’re working on a story
about vaccinations and the
anti-vaccination messaging. I think there’s a lot of
those different hidden forces that we don’t necessarily think
about or realize that comes into play when we make decisions. It’s actually very hard to
combat cognitive biases, even when you’re aware of them. [Asha] So how have these
experiments impacted our guests? I did not expect to
be so manipulated today. So it was extremely
enlightening to me that I’ve got to step it up a notch
and be more critical. [Asha voice-over] What
about Elka? Remember she had real
concerns about vaccine safety. I’m very glad that I was a part
of it and definitely I’m going to take the shots now. [Asha voice-over ] Elka decides
to start vaccinating. I will make sure my
kids also take it, and whoever doesn’t want to, I’ll try to
motivate like I got motivated. So, yes, right away,
I’m going to the clinic. [Asha] This is
your Marketplace. [Asha] We’ve gone
undercover with the world’s biggest anti-vaxers. Now we’re waiting
outside a VIP event. We’re hoping to confront
one of the movement’s leaders. As the event ends… [Asha] Hi. I’m with CBC Television
in Canada. We catch up with Del Bigtree. [Asha] You’re considered
a leader in this movement. Why do you
believe so much in it? Every day, someone recognizes
“my child’s injured” or “my cousin “I watched a child
regress into autism.” [Asha voice-over]
Recognize that? Identifiable victim bias. [Asha] With all due respect,
there are multiple studies. with hundreds of thousands
of subjects. -Name one.
-There was one in 2016 and one in 2019.
-That said what? Hundreds of thousands
of subjects that said there’s no link between
the MMR vaccine and autism. -The Denmark study.
-Are they untrue? Ah, it’s bad science. Most of it is being funded by
people who make money off of selling vaccines. [Asha voice-over] Not true. Many patents for childhood
vaccines have expired and are not a big money maker
for drug companies. Here’s the point. I want my children
to get the measles. The people who get
the measles will have a life-long immunity for life. [Asha voice-over] But what about
the 140,000 people who died of measles in 2018? And so they should
ignore the measles outbreak? Absolutely. [Asha] And it is due
to a drop in vaccinations. That’s not true. [Asha] Come on. I just want you speak to
parents who are vaccine hesitant who are really worried– -Okay.
-about misinformation. Yes. And what do you say
to them? Do your own research. And if they do their research
and they’re still not sure? Here’s what I would say,
don’t do anything you’re not sure about. [Asha voice-over] Hear that? He’s saying do nothing. That’s omission bias. [♪♪♪] These parents did that and
they learned the hard way. [♪♪♪] My advice to vaccine
hesitant parents would be I completely understand
how you feel. Get informed about the
real risks of these actual preventable diseases
and not just get scared into a bunch of misinformation.


  1. CBC News January 18, 2020 at 1:37 am

    Here are some of the most pervasive concerns Canadians brought to Marketplace, and why experts say we shouldn't worry about them: ^bb

  2. Dan Nguyen January 19, 2020 at 3:20 pm

    This is the dark side of free speech.

  3. Shad Henderson January 19, 2020 at 3:56 pm

    Andrew Zimmerman.

  4. Katia S January 19, 2020 at 4:05 pm

    Shame on you CBC. Haven't seen this kind of garbage for a long time. So cheap and one sided. Why do you need hidden cameras in a room full of cameras?

  5. Julie Todd January 19, 2020 at 4:13 pm

    They get flagged because BigPharma doesn't want the truth to come out.

  6. Northern Bohemian Realist January 19, 2020 at 4:33 pm

    Whoa! These comments!
    Okay folks, here's the plan.
    – You DON'T vaccinate your kids.
    – We will RELEASE various viruses into the population, maiming and maybe killing your kids.
    – Our kids won't have to deal with morons any more.
    That will take only one generation. Thank you!

  7. Y F January 19, 2020 at 4:51 pm

    This is comletely pharmaceutical propaganda.
    This video is full of outright lies that have been pushed by the pharmaceutical industry for decades.

    Big pHARMA, is terrified of people learning the truth.
    Vaccines are completely liability free, no matter the harm they cause.
    Why would you trust the same serial liars who lied about all their drugs that have killed milions of trusting innocent people in the last 100+ years.

    All the media is wholly owned by the same corporations that own the pharmaceutical industry and everything else.
    Laws that force the public to use a product, is fascism.

    No safety studies have ever been done on any vaccines.
    No placebo controlled studies have ever been done.
    Vaccines are making children sick right after birth, creating pharmaceutical customers for life.
    54+% of amerikan children are chronically ill, with chronic ilness.
    Meaning continually ill.
    In addition these same corporations have control of the medical system and have turned doctors into the most successful drug salesmen ever.
    Young children forced by unkowing and trusting parents, forced to ingest toxic medication, undergo horrific treatment and subjected to ever increasing vaccine injections.
    Yet, there has been the greatest decline in health in the last 50 years, in the history of the world.

    Imagine if half of any species on earth was chronically sick.
    Obviously something is very wrong.
    Amerikan children are being poisoned by vaccines, among other things.
    Once injected, the material is wholly absorbed by the body.
    If the same material was ingested, most would be expelled by the digestive system, or broken down by digestive juices.
    Injection is far worse, when toxins are introduced.
    Vaccines are completely toxins. Whether it's the adjuvents, emulsifiers, organism or other ingredients, they have no place in the body.
    Read the vaccine ingredients on the insert included with the vial.
    Find out what they are.
    Do these agents belong in a living persons body?
    Use your own intelligence.
    Don't trust anyone but yourself.

  8. Anton Davidoff January 19, 2020 at 5:46 pm

    I watched the video and i decided that THERE IS GOOD AND THERE IS BAD VACCINES .. antivax people fight the bad vacciness but it is saver to not use aby vaccines

  9. Deo Proximo January 19, 2020 at 6:31 pm

    There's a lot of snark, smugness, name calling, sinister music and a total lack of double blind placebo studies showing us the vaccines are safe.

  10. daver5150 January 19, 2020 at 7:21 pm

    It's simple, give us the list of what is in these vaccines. Which they refuse to do. For christ sakes a box of cereal in Wal MArt has more ingredients listed than an apparently life saving vaccine. I am not putting anything in my body when I don't know its ingredients. Simple.. eh ?

  11. Roberge Picard January 19, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    I WAS looking forward to this program but due to this poor presentation l have to say W5 let us all down. This is not about mind games. Present the science from both sides and have the audience make the decision. I'm not an antivaccer I'm not vaccer I'm for freedom of choice. Unfortunately this type of programming adds fuel to Big Goverment to step in and make more useless laws and charge us more taxes. We live in a free society let's keep it that way. Freedom Of Choice.

  12. N Williams January 19, 2020 at 7:51 pm

    Control the healthcare system. Control the people. Individuals should always have choice and freedom of information

  13. N Williams January 19, 2020 at 7:56 pm

    Global censorship of healthcare information by Jonathan Emord. Constitutional attorney. Book on Amazon. Collusion with government non-accountable power of compromised regulatory agencies

  14. More Truth January 19, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    James Lyons-Weiler isn't known as James Lyin' Weiler for nothing! The man is ONLY about the grift. Thanks for exposing his sordid methods of grifting.

  15. doctormomma January 19, 2020 at 8:27 pm

    One of the mothers interviewed on the video states “I thought there was a wealth of well documented…incontrovertible evidence that vackseens were bad for you…”

    The fact is, there is nothing of the kind that exists to prove that vackseen are safe!

    The World Health Organization (WHO) Vackseen Summit just took place last month and many of their top researchers and doctors admit on camera that properly designed safety studies have never been conducted on any vackseens.

    Since we seem to have no evidence to prove vackseens incontrovertibly safe, or incontrovertibly harmful, shouldn’t the decision be left up to each individual (or to the individual’s parent) whether to vacksenate or not, without penalties, such as exclusion from schools or daycares?

    Furthermore, this biased “report” from CBC. Marketplace uses the example of pertussis (whooping cough) illness as a reason to vacksenate.

    However, the latest published, peer reviewed studies on the pertussis vackseen shows that it is at best ineffective, and at worst, causes one to incubate the pertussis bacteria without having symptoms, causing people to unknowingly spread the illness. (Look it up. It’s well documented).

    Also, antibiotics can easily treat pertussis.
    CBC should be sending reporters into the WHO Vackseen Summit to get the truth about the lack of safety data for vackseens.

    Enough of one sided scare tactic “reporting”. Please do true investigative reporting into the lies that have been spread by the mainstream conventional medical establishment and the pharmaceutical industry.

    I am grateful for brave journalists like Del Bigtree, and brave attorneys like RFK Jr for standing up to corporate influence and helping to bring the truth to the people.

  16. Edwin Barreiro January 19, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    Del Bigtree does interviews with anyone who requests it. Try him.

  17. Only Child life January 19, 2020 at 8:51 pm


  18. Runquist, Matthew January 19, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    Why do they keep eluding conversation, and debates with those who have researched vaccines. This video is IDIOTIC! How bout you all go catch up on your vaccines!

  19. Dan Boyer January 19, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    I used to have respect for CBC reporting. Now, the CBC is just another mouthpiece for the pharma industry, doing the shilling for their masters. CBC you are a disappointment.

  20. Suzy Q January 19, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    Anyone with a working brain will see through the propaganda that this piece is.
    You have probably just initiated more good thinking people to investigate the whole vaccine agenda by being so hopelessly pathetic and presenting NO science in favour of vaccination. I cant wait to see Del's subscribers grow after this!

  21. Only Child life January 19, 2020 at 9:32 pm


  22. JmeSamano1 January 19, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    You are straight up lying to people! It’s common because vaccine INJURY is real and not rare.

  23. Beth Hostetler January 19, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    Two things I learned from this. The kids got whooping cough and now have lifelong immunity. Also, the measles is so prevelant that they couldn't find a picture of a baby with the measles and had to use a photoshopped one. Slightly disappointed with the quality of the journalism CBS. You can do better.

  24. Only Child life January 19, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    I think CBC forgot about the 60 minutes episode where they went undercover at a pharmaceutical convention and showed big pharma paying off drs to push their drugs and vaccines. Drs are given bonuses based on the numbers of vaccines they hand out.

  25. Only Child life January 19, 2020 at 9:53 pm


  26. Lisa Elkind January 19, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    This show is from "Marketplace". Is that a surprise? Follow the money!

  27. Par Je January 19, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    One word: propaganda!

  28. Kristie Baum January 19, 2020 at 10:41 pm

    I began to doubt. Then I held my child having a vaccine induced seizures. There’s my fire!! Read an actual vaccine insert from the pharmaceutical companies themselves. No misinformation there. PS. A seizure is NOT considered an allergy to vaccines.
    There must be a choice for ANY medical procedure!!

  29. Behrooz Babaei January 19, 2020 at 10:41 pm

    Wow your social experiment proved vaccines are safe, I’m convinced. After watching this I suddenly forgot how after EVERY single cocktail of vaccines my child would have a seizure that same night and at the E.R we were told it’s a coincidence. “Vaccines, the leading cause of coincidences in the world.”

  30. Vitka70 January 19, 2020 at 10:50 pm

    Who is founding the debunking scientist?

  31. metejt January 19, 2020 at 11:02 pm

    You start right off lying through your teeth. "They don't trust mainstream media"!!!!!!!!!!! You're right no one trusts mainstream media but the anti-vaxxers would WELCOME any media sincerely looking for the truth. They aren't trying to hide or coverup anything and would gladly welcome an unbiased interview. THIS joke of a piece is anything but. They only "secrets" going on are trying to avoid censorship on social media, which shouldn't exist but thanks to the bought and paid for media and pharma shills, censorship now exists in the United States of America.

  32. Samantha January 19, 2020 at 11:26 pm

    I got vaccinated and so will my children. Don't want anyone preaching anything to me.

  33. Mary Q Holland January 19, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    How much is Big Pharma paying you?

  34. Is402831 January 19, 2020 at 11:41 pm

    this was merely a tabloid attack piece…ZERO, NADA, NOTHING of scientific substance. Even that ridiculous psycho exercise was just manipulation that really doesn't measure anything meaningful. Why didn't you ask why these doctors and journalists are doing what they are doing? Between Andrew Wakefield, James Lyon Weiler, Robert F Kennedy Junior and Del Bigtree, Dr Bob Sears, Mary Holland, Theresa Deisher, etc there is enough scientific findings to show that vaccinations are NOT safe and effective for everyone. Why doesn't CBC start asking why kids are so sick these days? why do we have to keep building bigger hospitals to care for kids with cancers that we never heard of 40 years ago?? why not ask why kids have so many allergies? why are school teachers struggling with kids that cannot cope…whether it's ADD, ADHD, anxiety, depression??? Quit wasting my tax dollars on your garbage attacks on people who are trying to do right by the sickest generation ever.

  35. Bart B. Van Bockstaele January 19, 2020 at 11:43 pm

    While I applaud that CBC addresses this issue, I am also disappointed that it got cramped into an 18 min episode. People who don't vaccinate out of fear are being misled by quacks and hucksters. They deserve to learn how we know vaccines are safe, how safe they are, and what the risks of not being vaccinated are. Most people who are parents today have no idea how dangerous these infectious diseases are. Maybe, possibly, someone like David Onley could play a role here.

  36. john howitt January 19, 2020 at 11:47 pm

    "They don't trust main stream media " you say. I wonder why when it's apparent that you've misquoted him. ( ie quid pro quo) You then eliminated his comments in response. Really CBC? You've lost all credibility as journalists. To think that as a taxpayer I have to fund this garbage disgusts me.

  37. Tanya Kell January 19, 2020 at 11:56 pm

    Interesting how the video starts by stating a mistrust for media. Then goes on to make a one sided piece filled with inaccuracies and scare mongering. I you want trust you have to be trust worthy. Sneaking and lying and making special edits to affirm a pre concluded story is not good journalism.

  38. Mel Toews January 20, 2020 at 12:14 am

    Show the data that proves one in one million reactions.

  39. atin eigh January 20, 2020 at 12:18 am


  40. Nova Scotia Alternative Autism Awareness January 20, 2020 at 12:20 am

    Well that was garbage. Please stop calling what you do investigative reporting and stop calling yourselves journalists.

  41. Moto Moto January 20, 2020 at 12:24 am

    Lol, this is journalism at its worst. Story brought to you by big pHarma.

  42. Donna Lynn Marie January 20, 2020 at 12:44 am

    Shame on you. My child was vaccine injured. I was at the DC event. Nobody really cares about your opinion. We know the truth of what happened to so many of our children.

  43. Donna Lynn Marie January 20, 2020 at 12:47 am

    Nobody is stopping any of you from vaccinating. Take your chances.

  44. Donna Lynn Marie January 20, 2020 at 12:48 am

    I had my vaccine injured 24 yo at the DC rally. You didn’t talk to me.

  45. Toby Rogers January 20, 2020 at 12:52 am

    Did you run a similar undercover operation at the American Medical Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, or any conference sponsored by Pharma? Why not? Did you run an undercover sting to ask Hotez, Offit, Reiss, or Gorski how much they charge for a speech? Why did you take key quotes out of context? Merck, Sanofi, GSK, and Pfizer are all convicted felons. Why are you working on behalf of convicted felons? Did you consult with a lawyer to ask whether you are engaged in racketeering by airing this piece (might be a good idea).

  46. Only Child life January 20, 2020 at 12:58 am


  47. Only Child life January 20, 2020 at 1:03 am


  48. Eloa Doner January 20, 2020 at 1:07 am

    You did not interview the parents of the vaccine injured kids, all the 1000 who were present at the V.I.E Event, you misrepresent facts and outright lie about what was told to you by the people you interviewed. Shame on the CBC! Do not send me e-mails asking for donations, you do not deserve to exist.

  49. CurveTheRain January 20, 2020 at 1:40 am

    How do you have 10 kids and not vaccinate them!? One gets a bug they’re ALL getting it!

  50. Richids Coulter January 20, 2020 at 1:43 am

    Absolutely load of rubbish

  51. Yuki Pyro January 20, 2020 at 2:38 am

    Canadian Media is bought by China and the Saudi's.

  52. TheTexshan January 20, 2020 at 2:40 am

    "Get the measles so you won't get the measles again."

  53. CanadianBear47 January 20, 2020 at 3:03 am

    Could u guys do an update on food waste

  54. Cultivate Kindness Abodah January 20, 2020 at 3:41 am

    HAHA 😆 you guys come to US ! They don’t have marketplace CBC like we do in Canada.

  55. K Breault January 20, 2020 at 3:42 am

    Classic, moronic, one sided. I expect nothing more from mainstream media.

  56. rjb555 January 20, 2020 at 4:23 am

    The CBC should change their name to "Big Pharma's Lapdog"

  57. Eric Kirstein January 20, 2020 at 4:31 am

    This show is more autistic than a public health waiting room.

  58. rjb555 January 20, 2020 at 4:36 am

    The industry could end the vaccine debate in one fell swoop: Do a "vaccinated vs. unvaccinated study"

    The fact they have refused to do it for 50 years tells you everything you need to know.

    — Checkmate —

  59. Don Sanduchie January 20, 2020 at 4:43 am


  60. Dorit Reiss January 20, 2020 at 4:47 am

    Thank you for doing this thorough, helpful reporting. It's a good counter to the efforts of the anti-vaccine movement to mislead people into not protecting their children.

  61. MrSporkster January 20, 2020 at 4:51 am

    CBC has done a great job of exposing these liars for hire!

  62. IceShard January 20, 2020 at 5:02 am

    why didn't they go in there with hazmat suits

  63. Zokizzy Foshizzy January 20, 2020 at 5:05 am

    Vaccines cause the Earth to be round.

  64. Grace D January 20, 2020 at 5:27 am

    There IS evidence to support all of this!!!! Why are billions of dollars paid out for vaccine injuries if “there is no evidence to support” various injuries!!??

  65. Danielle René January 20, 2020 at 5:45 am

    Ooooohh, "tracking" people, "undercover" at … public events… how incredibly brave of those "journalists"…

  66. Jason Chen January 20, 2020 at 5:49 am

    Not a money maker for drug companies LOL!!! Good one!

  67. unknown661 January 20, 2020 at 5:58 am

    i wonder how long it will take the cbc to disable the comments and ratings on the video bc people dont agree with them

  68. Historymaker2001 January 20, 2020 at 8:31 am

    To be fair, I'd be one to get the hell away from that tarantula…I'm arachniphobic as a result of being deathly allergic to spider venom.

  69. Sarah Penfold January 20, 2020 at 9:21 am

    Very well put together, and a fascinating insight to the real scam artists Del Bigmouth, RFK and Fraudfield. Thank you for doing this.

  70. Kieth Ochava January 20, 2020 at 9:25 am

    Jeez when I came here I thought people would agree to this video because it proves a lot of points

    besides all your claims are mostly based on speculation comment section

  71. Rachel Ravitz January 20, 2020 at 10:26 am

    why vaccine hesitancy? Maybe because a few people actually read the vaccine inserts?

  72. Rachel Ravitz January 20, 2020 at 10:30 am

    How can you prove that anything those three men said have led to outbreaks?? Evidence?? Sorry but you sound like anti-science ignoramouses

  73. Immortan-Valkyrie90 January 20, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    Remember that time y'all didn't get polio?

  74. Religious free Zone January 20, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    As a dane and 53.I had a few vaccines. I lived as you can see. ; – ) No side effect of anything from what vaccines they had back in the late 60'ties and 70'ties. There are some vaccines that is a must do. Do not listen to people that only has opinions and not real facts. Use your intuition. I would not recommend the HPV. That one do have serious side effects.

  75. Anja Polisak January 20, 2020 at 2:31 pm

    The number of vaccine hesitant people are increasing because the evidence is compelling.

    You will not find anti vaccine rhetoric on regular media at all even find this information you have to seek it out. You have to read scientific journals in their entirety…and you have to have a reason to want to do so.This information does not find you…you find it…and unfortunately usually after some kind of medical concerns about your child.

    I understand that those medical issues may have nothing to do with vaccines…but understand this …if you haven't investigated the claims yourself than you really can not tell me that we haven't missed something here…and that maybe some of the rise in neuroimmune problems in children could in part be due to vaccines.

    Marketplace, you need to do a balanced and thorough investigation of our/their arguments.

    Having a doctor come on and just tell us their claims are all false is not enough and insulting to our intelligence.
    This is garbage

  76. Jodie Urquhart January 20, 2020 at 2:31 pm

    Pharmaceutical companies are not liable and can not be sued if a vaccine injures a child. The US govt has paid $4 billion in injuries since the 1986 vaccine injury compensation act.

  77. Darksyne January 20, 2020 at 2:34 pm

    Any flat-earthers in the house too? 😂

  78. Clint Gurnsey January 20, 2020 at 2:55 pm

    CBC why are you removing people's comments? Do the comments not comply with your narrative? We do not want to confuse people with the facts do we?

  79. Diane Shears January 20, 2020 at 3:43 pm

    CBC: It's far too late for this nonsense. There have been too many casualties. Public trust is irreparably broken. Your time has come and gone.

  80. Amber Lynne January 20, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    Medical freedom is non negotiable

  81. Christine Webb January 20, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    Excellent piece. Tired of the big names in AV profiting off misleading parents and their children and vulnerable populations suffering for the misinformed ideals. Children are not property and should be able to be protected from preventable diseases. Most the parents were vaccinated. The parents that chose not to vaccinate should not be allowed to place others at risk.

  82. snochicka January 20, 2020 at 4:11 pm

    I see the antivaxxer morons have overrun the comments.

  83. VIAL January 20, 2020 at 4:15 pm

    Why are Del Bigtree, RFKjr, Dr Wakefield and James Lyons-Weiler treated like rockstars? Because they aren’t afraid to tell the truth. The truth is what resonates so well with parents who are eyewitnesses to the destruction of their children’s well-being. This movement is growing every day because more parents are witnesses…it’s a mathematical probability that the scales will tip.

    With 54% of our children being chronically ill, well before the sudden explosion in v a cci ne risk-aware parents, I’d say public health is experiencing a point of EPIC FAILURE.

    “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has”
    ~ Margaret Mead

  84. Samantha Day January 20, 2020 at 4:54 pm

    Here is my vaccine story. I got the hpv vaccine and nothing happened. I am completely healthy and have never had a single adverse effect. Every person I know who has been vaccinated is also health and never suffered an adverse reaction. But that isn’t news because it’s something that happens everyday. Millions of people getting vaccines without any issues. Do you know what does get reported on. That 1 in a million who has an allergic reaction.

  85. Vlad G January 20, 2020 at 5:05 pm

    The way the media encourages people to dehumanize folks who have even the slightest doubt about vaccines, that's the real suspicious thing going on here.

  86. Fun Fun January 20, 2020 at 5:42 pm

    Hey there I have a question I live in London Ontario and here is some problems so what we do to fix it why I’m asking u because u have that power who can fix it so my question is if I found some problems I will take in my phone but idk how to share with you guys please reply my comments this is really important for people hope u understand what I mean?

  87. Tracey's Dog Daze January 20, 2020 at 6:20 pm

    Sensationalism at its finest. MSM is not trusted because ypu refuse, for this topic, to tell both sides. Why have you once again, used a derogatory term' antivaxxer'?. Why did you not talk to those attending that are vaccine injured or have a vaccine injured child? And yes, they were in attendance!!

  88. R G January 20, 2020 at 6:39 pm

    “Science is a way of thinking. It’s the courage to challenge old dogma, and a willingness to be open minded. Real science embraces and welcomes the questioning of conventional wisdom. Questioning established ideas, or proposing a radically different hypothesis is courageous. Quite often people who propose such ideas are shunned, or rejected by the “establishment,” including governments, religious groups and now apparently the pharmaceutical industry.” I added that last group but it fits perfectly.

  89. rebekah P January 20, 2020 at 6:50 pm

    well done CBC!

  90. Colleen Rogers January 20, 2020 at 7:47 pm

    All my kids where vaccinated and they all have been sick with a whooping cough like sickness yet the Dr never tested for it. More then once.
    This video is bias and full of half truths.

  91. P S January 20, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    The World Health Organization just decided at its vaccine summit in December that you should stop calling people "antivaxxers" and stop calling their information "misinformation." Listen to your leaders.

  92. mrsmeeshyweeshy January 20, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    Why did your "expert" claim that side effects listed on vaccine product monographs or correlated beyond reasonable doubt in court can never be the side effect of vaccines?

  93. Stephanie Sowers January 20, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    Shame on you cbc…vaccine injury is real and we are creating a movement to protect the children that have been injured and or killed. Get your priorities straight…!

  94. Edward Cannell January 20, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    I can't believe this report by Marketplace as it shows no published studies yet say the evidence is in and vaccines are safe. This post by Marketplace is a smear job. Such low standards for Marketplace. I am disgusted by the lack of real science while claiming to speak for science.

  95. Open Eyes January 20, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    Let's examine the CDC studies and pick them apart. People would be horrified!

  96. Open Eyes January 20, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    How about interviewing both sides to have a fair and unbiased view of this subject.

  97. Open Eyes January 20, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    Why be undercover? There is nothing Antivaxers are hiding.

  98. Holly Leeming January 20, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    Does the CBC really have to ask why MSM isn't trusted, lots of propaganda. All those anti vaxxers are actually vaccine sceptics are willing to have the debate you cowards won't have. Don't ask why your not trusted. Really, have you looked at the cost of Clinton's events and many others. You want to talk fear, aren't scaring people into vaccinations. Yes the anti vaxx movement is working you have no hard facts and studies to prove vaccines are safe. The Whooping cough vaccine cures only the cough leaving the person a carrier spreading the cough too others, your fools.

  99. R G January 20, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    @ 4:00 children getting sick for something like pertussisis is normal, although not without some risk, but will provide lifelong immunity from ever catching the disease or spreading the disease ever again. Creating actual herd immunity, unlike the children who were vaccinated for whopping cough who are quite possibly not protected and are actually creating a resurgence of the disease. Individuals although vaccinated, become infected without some of the symptoms but are highly contagious nonetheless. There are scientific studies that are finding this to be true but require some work and effort in finding them and understanding them. Unfortunately this is were we are at regarding this issue; you must do your own due diligence and come to your own conclusions. We generally can not trust the media or the medical community who collect far too much money from the same Industry making the claims about safety. And, most importantly we can not trust regulators who have been completely captured by the same deep pockets of big pharma.

  100. Connor J. Finlayson January 20, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    I fear for the world. This comment section is absolutely full of science, fact, and logic denying morons.

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